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« Reply #50 on: May 01, 2007, 02:59:17 AM »
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« Reply #51 on: May 01, 2007, 03:03:13 AM »
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« Reply #52 on: May 01, 2007, 05:37:04 AM »
Ok so I'm really confused.  Were those shoppers and that 65 year old lady THREATENING the man that killed them with his firearm?  Was he DEFENDING HIMSELF??  Please.  It's getting to the point now that it's normal for someone to want to take out as many people as they can while they go on their suicidal rampage.  I know this is going to get nasty, but how the FUCK is walking into a school or shopping centre and shooting as many people as you can before some copper takes you down any different to strapping a bomb to your chest and blowing yourself up in the middle of a busy street?
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« Reply #53 on: May 01, 2007, 05:42:12 AM »
when you walk into a school or a shop and start shooting you get to see the fear and the people running and begging for their lives as you shoot them, while for a suicide bomber there is none of that, just surprise detonation.

as to which is worse, i don't know, they both have the intent to kill innocent people.
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« Reply #54 on: May 01, 2007, 09:53:04 AM »
Huh? So legalization of guns is meant to accommodate hunting, but hunters don't use guns for hunting?

That's funny. How about we legalize anti-tank missiles too? :D
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« Reply #55 on: May 01, 2007, 10:43:35 AM »
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How about we legalize anti-tank missiles too? :D
Great for hunting whales :P
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« Reply #56 on: May 01, 2007, 01:02:26 PM »
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Huh? So legalization of guns is meant to accommodate hunting, but hunters don't use guns for hunting?

That's funny. How about we legalize anti-tank missiles too? :D
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« Reply #57 on: May 01, 2007, 01:30:27 PM »
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And land mines against rattlesnakes!
... and hunchbacks :P
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« Reply #58 on: May 01, 2007, 01:45:02 PM »
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Ok so I'm really confused.  Were those shoppers and that 65 year old lady THREATENING the man that killed them with his firearm?  Was he DEFENDING HIMSELF??  Please.  It's getting to the point now that it's normal for someone to want to take out as many people as they can while they go on their suicidal rampage.  I know this is going to get nasty, but how the FUCK is walking into a school or shopping centre and shooting as many people as you can before some copper takes you down any different to strapping a bomb to your chest and blowing yourself up in the middle of a busy street?
in scenario (a) you are a madman, in scenario (b) you are a terrorist. and there are a whole bunch of other laws for dealing with those people :O
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« Reply #59 on: May 01, 2007, 01:51:14 PM »
Yup, especially if you're Muslim O_O
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« Reply #60 on: May 01, 2007, 02:02:59 PM »
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Yup, especially if you're Muslim O_O
Nah, actually I think the laws on terrorism are pretty much the same for everyone... consequences might differ though.
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« Reply #61 on: May 01, 2007, 02:14:13 PM »
Oh, I'm quite sure the laws are the same, it's just the way they're enforced that differs ;)
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« Reply #62 on: May 02, 2007, 10:00:30 AM »
hey, you don't even have to be a muslim. just looking a teensy bit like one is good enough.
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« Reply #63 on: May 02, 2007, 11:19:11 AM »
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Oh, I'm quite sure the laws are the same, it's just the way they're enforced that differs ;)
The legislation is different. Hell, the definition of terrorist is different across countries. I see what you're getting at, but there are some pretty nasty devils in those details :)

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« Reply #64 on: May 02, 2007, 03:05:00 PM »
terrorist = anyone who is from, or maybe construed to be from, tied to, connected with, or of the same religion as those in the middle-east right?


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« Reply #65 on: May 02, 2007, 03:14:55 PM »
I think the UN definition was "someone who commits acts of war in peace time" or something of the like.

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« Reply #66 on: May 02, 2007, 03:18:05 PM »
You mean it has nothing to do with causing terror, only extra baggage for your ordinary decent criminal trying to make a living off theft, murder, ransoms and taking hostages?! Those pricks.
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« Reply #67 on: May 02, 2007, 04:06:14 PM »
The UN actually has several definitions of "terrorist". The one Thin posted is actually: "an act of terrorism is the peacetime equivalent of a war crime". Makes some sense, but not much. It's also something political scientists can't agree on defining; the good old "One man's terrorist is another man's freedom fighter" gets bandied about a lot during those debates apparently. I don't remember the specifics, I slept through most of that lecture back at uni.

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« Reply #68 on: May 03, 2007, 03:01:28 AM »
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I think the UN definition was "someone who commits acts of war in peace time" or something of the like.
i wasn't talking about the UN definition, i was talking about the one some bigoted world leaders use instead.

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« Reply #69 on: May 03, 2007, 03:02:45 AM »
OMG, he's coming right for us!!
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« Reply #70 on: May 03, 2007, 05:03:04 AM »
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The UN actually has several definitions of "terrorist". The one Thin posted is actually: "an act of terrorism is the peacetime equivalent of a war crime". Makes some sense, but not much. It's also something political scientists can't agree on defining; the good old "One man's terrorist is another man's freedom fighter" gets bandied about a lot during those debates apparently. I don't remember the specifics, I slept through most of that lecture back at uni.

Wikipedia knows it all.
Freedom Fighter or not, the moment you involve innocents in your war against whatever government that you're fighting against, you're a terrorist. Government employees do not count as civilians.
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« Reply #71 on: May 03, 2007, 05:10:11 AM »
I refer you once again to the 600,000 odd that you've been involve with the massacre of....
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« Reply #72 on: May 03, 2007, 05:19:35 AM »
That would make me a war criminal Nuada, not a terrorist.
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« Reply #73 on: May 03, 2007, 05:31:28 AM »
Semantic, I'm too drunk for this shit. Ok, you win you're a war criminal. You showed me...
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« Reply #74 on: May 03, 2007, 05:37:32 AM »
Some victory Nuada.
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