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« Reply #75 on: February 11, 2008, 08:37:49 AM »
...and the child YOU own!
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« Reply #76 on: February 11, 2008, 09:08:00 AM »
Yes, because the foetus is fully able to support itself outside the mother's body.
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« Reply #77 on: February 11, 2008, 12:44:11 PM »
A newborn baby isn't exactly able to support itself outside the mother's body either.
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« Reply #78 on: February 11, 2008, 12:52:32 PM »
It'd last longer than a foetus. Like, more than 10 minutes.

Or whatever.
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« Reply #79 on: February 11, 2008, 01:19:07 PM »
So if being able to take care of yourself is what gives you rights...  do handicapped people belong to their parents, or to the government or what?

Should I be allowed to kill my senile grandparents if they're inconveniencing me?

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« Reply #80 on: February 11, 2008, 02:15:56 PM »
This entire thread is a rehash of every retarded internet debate that has ever been recorded since 1993. Congratulations for making my ears bleed.

dkan: Do a google search for my answer to your ridiculous, loaded, red herring question. I can't be bothered to rebut every new Republican that stumbled onto the How To: Internet Debate manual.

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« Reply #81 on: February 11, 2008, 02:29:10 PM »
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Should I be allowed to kill my senile grandparents if they're inconveniencing me?
ALLOWED?
It's your duty.
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« Reply #82 on: February 11, 2008, 03:04:24 PM »
Hey I'm not the one bringing out the retarded liberal talking points one after the other. I just provide the obvious common sense responses

I didn't actually think this was going to become a debate. I am simply surprised that Huckabee is such a bogeyman to some of you considering all the other horrible candidates there are out there.

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« Reply #83 on: February 11, 2008, 04:17:54 PM »
Simply surprised! Obviously. Common Sense Good! Bogeyman Boo! Horrible candidates Grrrrrr!

Boy you are one hell of an idiot. Well played.

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« Reply #84 on: February 11, 2008, 04:35:18 PM »
Thanks, you're my inspiration

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« Reply #85 on: February 11, 2008, 09:26:30 PM »
The most horrible candidate has been elected 7 years ago. Things can only get better!

And dkan, don't be scared by them cynical liberals. Their flamy pasts have left them branded, but deep inside the charcoal you may find they're actually cool peeps!
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« Reply #86 on: February 11, 2008, 09:48:18 PM »
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So if being able to take care of yourself is what gives you rights...  do handicapped people belong to their parents, or to the government or what?

Should I be allowed to kill my senile grandparents if they're inconveniencing me?
That was never the issue. If you had a few working braincells, you know that it was just an addition to Amanda's statement about how it's the mother's body. And that she should decide what happens to her body... as every woman should. Until the child's born, it's an organism that parasites on the mother's body, and thus it's up to the mother; she has more right to make decisions than anyone else in the world.

Question though; your comment on being allowed to 'kill senile grandparents if they're inconveniencing you' sounds so bitter that I wonder if you're against euthanasia (sp?), too. Do you feel that's murder, too?
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« Reply #87 on: February 12, 2008, 12:13:56 AM »
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Hey I'm not the one bringing out the retarded liberal talking points one after the other. I just provide the obvious common sense responses

I didn't actually think this was going to become a debate. I am simply surprised that Huckabee is such a bogeyman to some of you considering all the other horrible candidates there are out there.
lol. So what you're saying is that your point of view is always right and common sense, but any opposing one is "retarded"?
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« Reply #88 on: February 12, 2008, 02:53:58 AM »
This place is so fucking predictable.
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« Reply #89 on: February 12, 2008, 03:27:55 AM »
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So if being able to take care of yourself is what gives you rights...  do handicapped people belong to their parents, or to the government or what?

Should I be allowed to kill my senile grandparents if they're inconveniencing me?
That was never the issue. If you had a few working braincells, you know that it was just an addition to Amanda's statement about how it's the mother's body. And that she should decide what happens to her body... as every woman should. Until the child's born, it's an organism that parasites on the mother's body, and thus it's up to the mother; she has more right to make decisions than anyone else in the world.

Question though; your comment on being allowed to 'kill senile grandparents if they're inconveniencing you' sounds so bitter that I wonder if you're against euthanasia (sp?), too. Do you feel that's murder, too?
Yes of course. It follows from the same logic and principle.

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« Reply #90 on: February 12, 2008, 03:31:27 AM »
I'm against anyone ever being killed, unless it's the only way to save another life or if some great crime has been committed. Suicide is different but I don't think there are ever true, 'rational' suicides - or they're very rare, there will always be social, psychological pressures on people even if they don't realize it.

I'm sorry if you think my motivation is evil.

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« Reply #91 on: February 12, 2008, 03:50:08 AM »
Evil's a pretty black and white concept...
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« Reply #92 on: February 12, 2008, 03:55:49 AM »
Well often pro-abortion people say pro-life folks are misogynistic or want to control people, which I think are evil motivations. I only speak for myself but that's not the reason for my views. Same way as I can see why people would be for legalizing abortion because criminalization sometimes make things worse.

..though comments about the unborn being 'parasites' strike me as being more bitter than anything I've said.

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« Reply #93 on: February 12, 2008, 04:05:35 AM »
By the way if the number of abortions could be kept to a minimum while women still had the legal option, by taking away the reasons why many abortions (poverty, no father, stigma etc) happen I would be happy with that. The law isn't what matters, it's the consequences that matter. I think too many people on both sides get too caught up with the legal question which becomes obsessive and lose sight of the big picture.

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« Reply #94 on: February 12, 2008, 04:13:11 AM »
I want to abort, because it makes my belly fat!
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« Reply #95 on: February 12, 2008, 04:16:56 AM »
What are the unborn if they are not parasites? You can hardly call the relationship symbiotic.
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« Reply #96 on: February 12, 2008, 06:10:08 AM »
You can't call a fetus a parasite because by their very definition, parasites provide no benefits to their hosts.  Babies are the means by which people pass their genes on to later generations, which, from an evolutionary perspective, is the very purpose of life.  It definitely outweighs 9 months of inconvenience and discomfort in any case.

And that's not even taking into consideration the joy and psychological fulfillment many people experience in the raising of their children.   I don't hear too many folk bemoaning the mood swings and achy backs once they hold their newborn in their arms.   :)
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« Reply #97 on: February 12, 2008, 06:59:01 AM »
Overpopulation is more of an issue to me than abortion. I think it's every woman's moral duty to fall down a staircase or two while pregnant.
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« Reply #98 on: February 12, 2008, 07:04:29 AM »
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Babies are the means by which people pass their genes on to later generations, which, from an evolutionary perspective, is the very purpose of life.
So what you are saying is that the meaning of life is actually sex and not 42??
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« Reply #99 on: February 12, 2008, 07:09:27 AM »
I'm saying that it doesn't make sense to call babies parasites, because they aren't.  :)
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